Finn, I don't know if you were involved in the joint project, which was focused somewhat on Toronto but had important recommendations to the feds. Toronto City Summit Alliance and St. Christopher House looked at some important issues for modernizing the income security for adults. They made some recommendations that many of us had made.
I don't know. What we do know is that Canadians don't like to walk down the street and see homeless people. They don't like to know about children being left alone because they don't have child care. It doesn't make sense to people that work is not a pathway out of poverty. Almost one in two low-income children has a family that's in the labour force all year, but they can't get full-time work. I'm talking about the labour market. You all know I strongly support public investment, but how about the private sector doing its thing as well?
Why can't we get through? I'm not sure. You look at opinion polls and health, education, and poverty rank continually high. The GST cuts did not gain a lot of popularity from people. So do we want to give up another $4 billion to $5 billion in public revenue in this country? I don't know. Since 1980, we've made virtually no progress. I'm not sure what else to say, except that we're going to keep saying it in whatever colour, shape, and way we can.