Evidence of meeting #46 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was fintrac.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Diane Lafleur  Director, Financial Sector, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Lynn Hemmings  Chief, Financial Crime - Domestic, Financial Sector Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Vincent Jalbert  Senior Project Leader, Financial Crimes - Domestic, Financial Sector Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance

10:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

That's my understanding. Is that correct, Mr. McCallum? Would you accept that, Madam Wasylycia-Leis?

10:55 a.m.

NDP

Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

10:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

We now know what we're discussing.

Committee members, is there any further discussion? Mr. Dykstra.

10:55 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

On a point of clarification. I want to make sure I understand the motion. That is that the names that are on here, and the organizations, are suggestions of who may present. It doesn't confirm that they actually are going to present. In fact, the list will be provided and we'll make a determination that these are suggestions of who might present.

10:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

I'm sorry, I was consulting with the clerk and I missed your point. I apologize. Please restate.

10:55 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

I wanted clarification that in fact what the mover was saying is that they were suggestions, not confirmations.

10:55 a.m.

NDP

Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB

Based on past practice, that's right.

10:55 a.m.

Conservative

Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON

Thank you.

10:55 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Is there any further discussion?

Mr. Pacetti.

10:55 a.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

May I read what I have and then Ms. Wasylycia-Leis can decide whether she agrees with it or not?

It reads: “That the Standing Committee on Finance reconstitute an interim program of quarterly independent fiscal forecasts, employing the services of the Conference Board of Canada, Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives, Global Insight and Dr. Vaillancourt or other independent forecasters, submitted by the members of the Finance Committee, with the research staff deciding which forecasters to be chosen by”--I don't know if that's English--“as determined by the Finance Committee.” Then you take out “as determined by” and replace it with “with an initial appearance before the Finance Committee prior to the appearance of the finance minister”.

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Now--

11 a.m.

NDP

Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB

Initial presentation.

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

All right.

Now, my only concern is the issue of “employing the services of” as the wording, because we do not have time to establish contracts or re-establish those contracts with these people. The words “employing the services of” implies, of course, that they are hired. They will not be hired by the time that you expect they would appear, I would think.

So I would ask a friendly amendment from the chair that you utilize an alternative word to “employing”, such as “utilizing”, or some other word that does not give the implication that they are employees.

11 a.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Contracting.

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

The term “contracting” also gives the implication of a contract, doesn't it?

11 a.m.

NDP

Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB

“Utilizing” is good.

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Thank you very much, madam.

We will now entertain the vote.

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

11 a.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister

Thank you very much, committee members. I will see you all on Thursday at 11 a.m.

We are adjourned.