Evidence of meeting #5 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was motions.
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Conservative
Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON
A notion of motion can be registered at any time. All I need is a copy of the piece of paper--
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Conservative
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Conservative
Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON
We're speaking to whether a notice of motion is actually going to be debated on the agenda.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
We're speaking to this motion that Mr. McCallum brought forward that would require all motions that satisfied the notice of motion requirement to be listed on the agenda.
Mr. Dykstra.
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An hon. member
If I could just make a friendly amendment....
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
We'll just let Mr. Dykstra finish his comments.
Mr. Dykstra, to finish your point.
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Conservative
Rick Dykstra Conservative St. Catharines, ON
All I want is a clarification. When a motion is going to be discussed, would it be placed on the order paper? I don't even need the whole motion, just the motions noted with their title, to say this is going to be on the agenda today.
4:55 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
I will respond to the point of clarification request. If we begin to list the motions that are here, we will not necessarily deal with them at those meetings; they will simply remain as potentially being raised. However, if members decide they wish to give us notice to raise them at that meeting, we can give notice on the agenda. I believe that is a practice the clerk's office has adopted in the past.
Any further comments then?
Mr. Pacetti.
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Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
I have to defend myself. Every time there was a motion before this committee, it was on l'ordre du jour. There were times where we said we would allow a witness to come, and then somebody would decide to present the motion they had when we said we would put aside some time. The only time motions were forced upon--
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
Every single motion was put on the order paper, and we even used to put times.
I could pull them out. I have them all, Judy, and I can speak to you about this one. I asked how much time you needed--maybe half an hour--and we put it on the order paper: Judy Wasylycia-Leis' motion from 9 to 9.30 a.m.
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Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
No. I passed them all. The only two motions I didn't put on the order paper, and I can tell you which ones, were the GST/QST that the Conservatives presented, because we said we were going to have pre-budget consultations, and one from--
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Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
Yes.
All I think Mr. McCallum is requesting is that it be put on the orders of the day, so that it says, “Mr. So-and-So's motion from 9 to 9:30 a.m.”—that's it, that's all.
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Liberal
Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC
We need to have it on the order of the day so we can plan our day. Out of respect for the witnesses who are going to come here, I think we owe them that.
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Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
No, just for clarification first, I'll read Mr. McCallum's motion, which does not accurately reflect Mr. Pacetti's comments just now. It says:
That all notices of motion that have been circulated and have received the 48 hour notice period be put on the agenda of all meetings until such time as the motion has been disposed of.
That is the motion before us. I would urge members to continue in their discussion only on this motion.
Madam Wasylycia-Leis, please, proceed.
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NDP
Judy Wasylycia-Leis NDP Winnipeg North, MB
I think we're ready to vote on this. I would speak against it, because I think the clarification from the clerk about how this committee can operate makes sense. That would be to say—something I fail to do, which I would be happy to do--that I intend to raise this today, and therefore it would appear on the order paper. It's as simple as that. The onus is on the individual.
If I fail to do this, I apologize. I'd be happy to do it in the future.
That's the reasonable way to go. This other motion makes no sense.
5 p.m.
Conservative
The Chair Conservative Brian Pallister
I'm sorry, Madam, there's another issue, though. This is an issue that would, by your comments, require all members to not only give 48 hours' notice but also then to notify the clerk's office prior to the introduction. If this is what members wish, another motion is in order; however, right now we're dealing with this motion.
Madam Ablonczy.
5 p.m.
Conservative
Diane Ablonczy Conservative Calgary Nose Hill, AB
I was just going to suggest a friendly amendment: that the clerk place on the agenda those motions that have been properly given that the clerk has reasonable belief will be dealt with at a particular meeting.
I don't know, John, whether that's acceptable to you, but then we would just have the motions on that we think we're going to deal with, and not a whole bunch that won't be.
