We heard from two witnesses this morning who thought about their losses in the investments and their family's losses. I've been advised by them that they did trust and did increase their participation, as did a number of Canadians. If you listen to the witnesses we've heard, there's some very good information that income trusts are not necessarily the vehicle for all business activities, but that they do go very well in certain sectors. The Governor of the Bank of Canada responded that we hear of energy trusts and we hear of REITs that are good for that sector.
Mr. Kinnear, one of the things that people do point out—and we heard some of that this morning—is that there are concerns with some of the organizations or corporations that had gone into trusts as to the accounting, as to the auditing, as to the reporting procedures, and that there had been very drastic actions taken on the income trust sector with $30 billion lost to Canadians, taken out of their retirement income, out of their savings. Could you explain to me the magnitude of the changes in reporting accounting, or were there any?