I'll just speak to it from the perspective of the credit union system. We have established within the credit union system a surcharge-free network between credit unions. I'm a member of Alterna Savings in Toronto. I have a debit card. I'm going to be in Saskatoon tomorrow. I can go to the FirstSask ATM and pull money out and I won't be surcharged.
Each credit union member has access to at least 1,500 or 1,600 ATMs without surcharge. So as a credit union system, we're trying to address that issue through this means.