No, in fact we don't, and we work on a very close basis with the university and CEGEP associations in Quebec.
Part of the problem of coming up with a scientific number on what students and their families are owed in transfer payments is the fact that between 1996 and 2004 we had a block transfer payment, where some provinces spent differing levels on social services. So that number is a bit of a piece of fiction to begin with.
I think the premier's number of $4.9 billion refers to the entire Canadian social transfer, so for post-secondary education and associated program funding. Again, there are other estimates out there that put the number well beyond that in terms of what is owed when it comes to inflation and population growth. Suffice to say, I don't think there's anybody out there who can make the claim credibly that our institutions are getting anywhere near the level of federal support on a year-over-year basis that they were 10 years ago.