Evidence of meeting #10 for Finance in the 39th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was funding.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Kaaren Neufeld  President Elect, Canadian Nurses Association
Sabine Jessen  Conservation Director, Canadian Parks and Wildnerness Society - B.C. Chapter
Jo Ann Hyde  Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center
Blaise Salmon  President , RESULTS Canada
Jan Westlund  Coordinator, Women Elders in Action

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

That's provincial.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

So there's no federal funding? You don't get any federal funding as it is?

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

I think Corrections Canada has prevention, and I think Justice Canada also has some prevention programs. Have you applied there?

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

Yes, we have.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

You don't get any funding there?

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

We have had no response, which is unusual. I find that very difficult to understand. I'm working with a parent group right now, which is court-ordered, and yet I don't get any funding from the Department of Justice at all.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

How about community, in terms of getting your locale funded or anything like that? That's something that happens in my riding. I'm in an urban riding, though.

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

Do you mean municipalities and fundraising?

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

No, I mean the municipality providing you with an office and some of the overhead that you require to run your organization.

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

I approached the mayor probably about two weeks ago, and they don't want to set a precedent.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

What municipality are you in?

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

We are in the Humboldt area in central Saskatchewan.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

That's just outside of Saskatoon?

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

It's about 100 kilometres to the east of Saskatoon.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

How about in terms of salaries through the Department of Human Resources? Would that not be a department as well to look to for financing?

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

The only people who've engaged in a conversation with me regarding that are from the Department of Social Services, and they are trying right now--

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

Social Services would be provincial. We're at the federal level here, so I'm just wondering if federally--

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

No, there's nothing federally.

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

Have you tried Human Resources Canada? Is it Employment Canada? I'm not even sure what it's called.

1:55 p.m.

Executive Director, Partners for Rural Family Support Center

Jo Ann Hyde

I would have to go back and check. The other problem with non-profit, when there's limited funding, is the incredible turnover of staff. I have been there a total of three months. I am the third executive director for this year, so I would have to go back and check the files on that.

I did go through everything before I came here today. I cannot find evidence of any successful funding--

1:55 p.m.

Liberal

The Vice-Chair Liberal Massimo Pacetti

I'm not saying it's easy, but I look at my situation. I represent an urban riding that is two former municipalities on the Island of Montreal. One is very advanced when it comes to social programs, and they're able to get funding from all levels of government, whereas another part of my riding still doesn't even know that there are three levels of government sometimes.

It's a job you have to do as well through maybe your member of Parliament or your MPP and your city council as well. If I can offer some advice, perhaps look at those avenues.

I'm going to go back to the members.

Monsieur St-Cyr.

1:55 p.m.

Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

My question is for Mr. Salmon.

I'm very much concerned by the issue of international development aid and by our target of 0.7%. The first reason why we offer this aid is obviously altruism, charity, the desire to help human beings in trouble elsewhere in the world. However, a nation as rich as Canada finds other benefits in taking part in international development.

Many people say that, by helping people emerge from poverty, we create global wealth and help improve the economy. Others say that investing in international development is also a way of fighting international conflicts and terrorism. We invest a lot of money in the fight against terrorism and a number of people suggest that it would perhaps be more efficient to invest more in international development aid.

Do you support that kind of idea, Mr. Salmon?

2 p.m.

President , RESULTS Canada

Blaise Salmon

Yes, I agree with the other benefits to aid. Just on the terrorism one, though, I'm a little cautious, in that sometimes aid can be diverted from more direct poverty reduction efforts to terrorism. In fact, the bill I mentioned that's now in the Senate, the better aid bill, I understand is in part designed so that Canada's aid is poverty-focused as much as possible and not diverted into perhaps more national defence issues or security issues. But yes, the environment, the economy, and stability as well.

2 p.m.

Bloc

Thierry St-Cyr Bloc Jeanne-Le Ber, QC

The important thing is therefore to invest in the fight against poverty, assuming that it will eventually have an impact on war and terrorism, in particular, not the reverse.