Just before asking a final brief question to Ms. Kirk, I just wanted to say to Mr. Wiebe how much I appreciate your confirming the sound practical recommendations that have been made by Phil and Elizabeth Pacey in this province for years and years. They're always responded to by a lot of the corporate interests as some kind of pie in the sky, when they're in fact very practical solutions.
Ms. Kirk, I was interested in asking you to comment briefly on two things in relation to your recommendations. One is the community foundations movement and how you see that intersecting with the charitable organizations' needs.
Secondly, I was interested in the fact that you didn't make reference—and I've forgotten the exact question that you were asked—to what came to my mind, and that was the voluntary sector initiative that took place over a period of years. I know there were a lot of concerns by the charitable organizations about the constant pressure to eliminate advocacy, or at least downplay advocacy to a very alarming degree. I wonder if you could comment on that.