Losing money is always relevant to Canadians. If I lost money a year and a half ago, I'd still be pretty concerned. I'd have been concerned six months ago, and I'm concerned today, so this issue is relevant. It will be relevant in part because of the very point Mr. Turner's motion speaks to. It speaks to the issue that the Minister of Finance of Canada came into this committee, put up charts, and said he expected that if we carried on the way we were carrying on, we were going to lose $500 million in tax revenue. He was roundly criticized both in the press and by committee witnesses as asserting a falsehood.
Mr. Turner's motion speaks to that incredulity on the part of Canadians. It speaks to that issue. So Canadians have not moved on, Mr. Del Mastro, through you, Mr. Chair. The markets are volatile. We are in volatile times. A lot of the benefit and value of owning trust units has been bled out by the actions of the minister and of this government. So these hearings would test the proposition the Minister of Finance put before this committee, based on which, with the machinations of the votes in the House, he was able to successfully get it through the House.
We do not believe his proposition. We have very good reasons for not believing his proposition, and we are shocked and appalled--