The technology does exist to redo the forest industry. Every pulp mill in Canada can survive. They will make different things. It needs to leapfrog the technology and become a source of chemicals, fuels. Every cord of wood contains almost two barrels of oil. The technology to get that out is in its infancy. Germany imports half a million tonnes of pellets from B.C. to burn in their coal-fired boilers and call it green fuel. Ontario has Atikokan right in the middle of the forest, a coal-fired boiler that's going to shut down. It doesn't make sense.
We need to put in R and D programs that say we're going to get 25 years ahead. The manufacturing will follow the R and D. That should be the policy, the leadership that is required.