In the example I gave you of Nova Chemicals, we stepped up for $100 million, but we were insisting that the banks put additional money into the deal. And they did. They put an additional $50 million into the deal. In that particular case, we approached it as being part of the solution but not the solution, not displacing other players.
So we are trying to both maintain the banks with what they're doing, as the first point, and--