But it is a patchwork. It depends on each separate private pension contract. Some people have it, some people don't. Some people have employers that provide that flexibility, some people don't. You need to look for some kind of minimum standard that provides flexibility for everybody, that provides portability. You need to make sure that the ethics of allowing people to work, of keeping the dignity of work, of keeping their access to their funds for their own retirement, are constants throughout all of the pension plans in existence, including any new larger plan.
On April 21st, 2009. See this statement in context.