I think our major point is that if we start from a basic premise, pension plans only exist for the beneficiaries, period. In terms of moving away from the contribution holidays, away from the idea of a surplus, if we really put fiduciary duty back into fiduciary duty so that companies stop treating these funds as capital investments or tools for other purposes, we're going to look at any solution we can.
So the answer is, yes, we'd like lists. We'd like to see much more focus on bonds, long bonds, rather than in the equity market.
Just so you know that we're not talking out of hand, the Teamsters Canada plan is less than 2% in the market. I can tell you I was very relieved to have received the letter telling me that at the beginning of this year.