Okay. Maybe I can to go Ms. George with regard to this application for 10 years to pay back the pension.
I had a little exchange last week with someone who could be described as the union side and someone who could be described as the company side, trying to see if there might be a compromise. The union side seemed to be saying that maybe they'd go for the 10 years if there were stronger regulation of pensions, like rules about how much should be in equities, for example. The person on the company side didn't seem to want to compromise at all. I guess I'm asking you whether you think there's scope for a compromise here, or are the positions very solid and immovable?