Isn't part of the problem, Mr. Georgetti, the fact that we already started bleeding out hundreds of thousands of well-paying manufacturing jobs before the current crisis? Those jobs not only paid well and were enough to support a family, but they often came with pensions. They're being displaced and replaced by jobs in the service sector that don't pay nearly as well and that systematically don't have pensions. It's a little bit what Madame Carbonneau was referring to. In the collective bargaining sphere, where you have an employer-employee relationship that's controlled, you have a better chance of negotiating, but most of those people don't even have unions.