Indirectly.
The question is, where did the company go wrong? It's been six years since I left, and I don't know. Certainly the legal issues from an accounting point of view did not help the company. Then we had a period when I think senior management was probably creating an air of competence, stability, and integrity, but not leading the company forward. I think that maybe by the time Mr. Zafirovski came around, he was working on the right things, but he had some real challenges in front of him.
What I think really precipitated some of this is the collapse of the marketplace. The water went down, and those ships that were having troubles were exposed. That tsunami of what's happened in the marketplace has certainly hurt the company. If I understand correctly, from a pension point of view there were some obligations in the U.K. that actually helped drive the company into chapter 11. That was the triggering event to go into CCAA.