Evidence of meeting #4 for Finance in the 40th Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was advertising.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

David Miller  Corporate Services Branch, Department of Finance
Brian Ernewein  General Director, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Paul Rochon  Assistant Deputy Minister, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Rob Stewart  Director, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Alfred LeBlanc  Director, Federal-Provincial Relations and Social Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Jean-Michel Catta  General Director, Consultations and Communications Branch, Department of Finance
Jim Haley  Senior Advisor to the ADM, International Trade and Finance, Department of Finance
William Baker  Commissioner and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Revenue Agency
James Ralston  Chief Financial Officer and Assistant Commissioner, Finance and Administration Branch, Canada Revenue Agency
Filipe Dinis  Director General, Resource Management Directorate, Finance and Administration Branch, Canada Revenue Agency

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

There's no motion.

5:30 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

—that there would be discussion on Thursday.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

It's not a motion.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

Mr. Chair, with all due respect to Mr. Julian, we agreed to expedite this at a previous committee meeting. We all agreed to schedule extra meetings in if we needed to sit longer hours. So we all were aware of that, and the chair is correct that it is at his discretion. I'm just trying to alert everyone.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

The minister is confirmed?

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

Monday afternoon, yes.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

This is assuming the bill passes this week.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

Well, I—

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

John McKay Liberal Scarborough—Guildwood, ON

And if it doesn't pass, we've already agreed to do a pre-study.

5:30 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

—think this is very good use of our time.

To Mr. Laforest's suggestion to make sure that we get as many witnesses in and to your comment, I would suggest we meet Monday evening too, if we have to.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

I can just re-emphasize what I said this morning and at the last meeting. If you have suggested witnesses on the Budget Implementation Act—I know Mr. McCallum has submitted some and Mr. Menzies has submitted some—submit those to the clerk as soon as possible.

Monsieur Laforest.

5:35 p.m.

Bloc

Jean-Yves Laforest Bloc Saint-Maurice—Champlain, QC

If no motion is tabled, then who decides, Mr. Chair, on how the committee will proceed? Mr. Menzies said that the committee had agreed to fast-track the process. We have no problem with agreeing to fast-track matters, when it comes to a decision to hold additional meetings on Mondays. However, I don't understand the rush here. There is a difference between moving quickly and moving very quickly.

As early as next Monday and Tuesday, we will begin hearing from witnesses. Why not set aside the entire week after the break to hear from witnesses. We can hear from the minister on Monday afternoon, but why not block off our regular Tuesday and Thursday meetings for witness testimony. Setting aside two regular committee meetings to hear from witnesses should not be construed as delaying the process unnecessarily.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

The guidance given to the chair is that the Budget Implementation Act, should it pass in the House, should be given priority in this committee. That's certainly what I'll be following. I'll certainly be following members' guidance with respect to any witnesses they would like to bring before the committee. On members debating quickly, or too quickly, I don't want to get into a debate on the nuance of what those two phrases mean.

My sense is that if the budget would pass this week and the committee sits the week we come back, if it is the will of the committee, then we would add additional meetings. I understand you're in accordance with that as long as we hear from as many witnesses as are brought forward. That would be the will, but, frankly, I don't want to get into the committee micromanaging what the schedule will be. I think what Mr. Menzies was doing here was just providing information and trying to be forward with the committee as to what they were hoping to do.

I would remind members that all it takes is four members to write the chair to request a meeting, and, looking around the table, I suspect there are enough members to request that meeting.

I don't know if that answers the question, but I hope it provides some information.

Mr. Julian.

5:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Mr. Chair, the committee meetings regularly scheduled are for Thursday?

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

It's Tuesday and Thursday.

5:35 p.m.

NDP

Peter Julian NDP Burnaby—New Westminster, BC

Yes. So on Thursday I think the committee will have a better sense of whether or not the bill is passing this week, and Mr. Mulcair will be here. I think the discussion is better held on Thursday than right now.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Ted Menzies Conservative Macleod, AB

We've decided it's going ahead, but thanks for your information, Peter.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Do members really want to make a point, or do we want to finish the discussion here?

Mr. Wallace.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Mr. Chair, my point is on what you've done today. We had made a commitment that we wanted to do estimates, but we couldn't get the people here. You picked a different day and time and informed us, as committee members, of the new time to deal with estimates. We're here and we did the job.

All you're doing now is informing us that this committee has asked you for more time to deal with the budget in an expeditious way. You're providing more time for that on Monday. It's not really up for discussion, as far as I know.

5:35 p.m.

Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you. The meeting is adjourned.