If I could add to that, it's important to understand that applied research is impossible without the pure research beforehand. It's virtually impossible. Therefore, to ask for a balance between the two is particularly difficult because there's no such thing. If you don't have pure research, you will not have applied research.
One of the fundamental problems we've had in this country—and we've made presentations to this effect in the past—is that compared with other countries, industry in Canada has very low research endeavours, the pharmaceutical industry being an exception. But generally speaking, we have a problem with industry translating pure research into innovation. That is the fundamental problem. It's not a question of balance, but a question of who does what, and why don't they do more.