In terms of the Success By 6 recommendations for enhancement, we were looking at the work that was done by the Caledon Institute. In terms of that work, what we were looking at is essentially trying to simplify the benefit process. It's a non-stigmatizing benefit. Increasing the value to $5,000 essentially impacts immediately on those families with very low incomes and it actually simply raises them above the poverty level overnight.
In terms of our recommendation, also what we were recognizing is that this is a difficult financial situation, so to accommodate that, to accommodate that kind of social justice strategy, we would look to eliminate the universal child care benefit and the child tax credit and flow those moneys into what we consider to be a more progressive structure to address child and family poverty.
If you're hearing similar recommendations in Vancouver--and Mr. Kolkman and I have talked about ours--I think what's clear is that the child tax benefit is a very good federal structure to address the needs of low-income families. We would be willing to entertain different notions to strengthen it. This is one notion that's been researched and developed.