Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you to the witnesses for appearing. It's an interesting panel. I'll try to get as many questions in as I can.
I guess I'll go in the same order.
From the Canadian Retail Building Supply Council, Mr. Campbell, you talked a little bit about EcoEnergy Retrofit and Energy Star. My understanding is that the problem with the program is that you have to get somebody to come in and evaluate whether you're eligible or not, so you need some cost outlays and then you have to wait to find out if you're actually eligible for the retrofit.
I'm not sure how that would fit into converting the program to the same as the home renovation program.