Our understanding is that the current budget with the NCPC program, the national crime prevention program, is about $46 million. In conversations with our colleagues at NCPC and with other youth-serving organizations that do this kind of work, we believe that needs to be increased. Initially we thought tenfold; we landed on eight. There's no magic number. There's no magical way to arrive at a number that's adequate.
Certainly if you look at the overall dollars that are spent in the justice system, this is a piece for youth prevention. We've given it a lot of thought, and like all Canadians we watch the news. We actually support some of the harsher positions on crime that have been taken recently, but in terms of youth crime we think the answer lies in prevention.