Yes, and, sir, we're saying that these staff members are actually critical to the projections and costing we're talking about, and they're on secondment. As I've said to a few other members--and I don't mind saying it here, sir--we need a critical mass to do our work. If we don't have that critical mass, it's my recommendation as the Parliamentary Budget Officer that the office be shut down, because you need a minimum amount of resources to do the work.
On November 3rd, 2009. See this statement in context.