Evidence of meeting #15 for Finance in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was part.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Katherine Moynihan  Director, Portfolio Management, Crown Corporation Governance - ADC, Department of Transport
Sandra Dunn  Chief, Financial Sector Stability, Department of Finance
Jane Pearse  Director, Financial Institutions Division, Department of Finance
Will Kendall  Economist, Strategic Planning and Trade, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Cécile Cléroux  Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources
Jenifer Aitken  Senior Counsel, Legal Services, Department of Natural Resources
Jean-Frédéric Lafaille  Policy Director, AECL Review - CANDU, Department of Natural Resources
Terry Hubbard  Director of Policy, Major Projects Management Office, Department of Natural Resources

4:55 p.m.

Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

There are financial consultants currently helping us regarding the process initiated in December 2009. They are helping us carry out the privatization operations in order to get offers on the part of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited that relates to the CANDU reactors. Only the commercial part of the Crown corporation is regarded as being privatized.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

So the financial consultants have been retained only to examine the commercial aspect and not the valuation of the corporation's entire assets.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

That's right.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

I assume that this part will eventually be broken up to be sold. Obviously, it isn't assets that will be sold, it's a company.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

What we receive from investors, the offers that will be considered, will be among the factors studied. They will be presented to Cabinet. Cabinet will make a decision on the operation that will have to be undertaken to proceed with the sale of the commercial part. At present, in the legislation, all the options are covered, and this gives the government the flexibility required.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

I have to say that it is very well written and it sets out all the powers needed by the people who will then be doing the work.

Concerning the brokers you have retained, are there several of them? Was there an invitation to tender? May we know who was selected?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

The tender process was initiated by our colleagues at Public Works and Government Services Canada. Under that process, a firm was selected. It is N M Rothschild & Sons Limited.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

Has that firm done a valuation of the assets to be sold, based on whether it is sold 100% or in separate pieces?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

Studies were done before the operation initiated in December 2009. That led to the decision announced in May 2009. When that decision was announced, a summary was also done of the analyses that had been done before. It can be accessed on the Natural Resources Canada Internet site.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

I assume that the summary doesn't set a maximum price.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

That's right, because that is part of what potential investors are being asked to evaluate.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

We are both following the same reasoning. For the sale of the company, have investors already been approached by N M Rothschild & Sons on behalf of the government of Canada, in spite of the fact that the legislation has not been enacted?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

The process was initiated in December 2009. A number of investors were solicited. The operation is underway. We are committed to ensuring that the process will happen quickly.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

Was a teaser sent to some potential investors?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

The process includes information relating to the government's initial expectations, how to get offers, as in the course of any other privatization operation.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

Is it at the confidentiality agreement stage?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

They were signed by the investors a long time ago. That goes back to when the operations were initiated, in December 2009.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

So by including the confidentiality agreement, we can say, the basic document was detailed enough to be able to proceed with the sale of the company. You know exactly what assets will be included in the dower package.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

Starting in December 2009 we said that the part in question was the nuclear reactor division of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited. That is the part that is the subject of transactions with private investors.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

Concerning the division that will be sold, if I take the Hydro-Québec contract for repairing or upgrading the Gentilly-2 plant as an example, I would like to know whether that contract will be part of the dowry in the package the eventual purchaser acquires.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

That is part of what is currently being examined by potential purchasers. It is premature to determine what offers will be submitted to the government and what decision will be made when the time comes.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

But the maintenance contracts are specifically part of the commercial bill for the company to be sold.

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

The maintenance contracts and the contracts for extending the useful life of the reactors are part of the potential package that can be considered by investors.

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Bloc

Daniel Paillé Bloc Hochelaga, QC

The Quebec employees who are located on McGill College Avenue in Montreal, would they necessarily be transferred to the privatized company?

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Assistant Deputy Minister, AECL Restructuring, Department of Natural Resources

Cécile Cléroux

That will depend on the offers to be considered and the decisions to be made by Cabinet when the time comes.