In actual fact, the $60 million to $80 million represents Canada Post's losses. This is a decline in revenue of $60 million to $80 million for Canada Post. That money goes directly into the hands of the remailers. This is revenue that should enable Canada Post to maintain the universal service. That's what this amount represents. Businesses like Key Mail and Spring are acting outside the law in doing this work. They are taking this revenue away from the Crown corporation.