Okay. Thank you very much.
I don't think we're kidding anybody here; the folks who are here on the environmental issue disagree on a couple of points and don't like it in Bill C-9. I don't think, wherever it is, you would like the changes that are being recommended, whether that's in a separate bill or in Bill C-9 or not. I don't think that's really a secret.
I do take some offence to Monsieur Mulcair's comments about the public servants. To that end, Mr. Yves Leboeuf was here. He's the vice-president of policy development of the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency, and he was asked by John McCallum:
I wonder if you could give us examples of the types of projects that, through these new measures, might not require any assessment at all, which currently do require assessment.
This is his response:
Sure. First, there is nothing in the proposed amendments that would exclude projects from the requirements of environment assessments that are not already excluded.
And then he goes on to say:
When you look at the package of amendments being proposed here, they essentially cover three things. The first is to make permanent some exclusions that are already in existence and that were introduced by regulations a year ago and make them permanent now. These are exactly the same exclusions that were covered in those regulations a year ago and the same circumstances when public infrastructure projects are to benefit from federal funding under specified programs. Those programs are the same as those that were set out in those regulations last year.