Evidence of meeting #31 for Finance in the 40th Parliament, 3rd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was debt.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Benjamin Tal  Deputy Chief Economist, CIBC World Markets
Glen Hodgson  Senior Vice-President and Chief Economist, Conference Board of Canada
François Dupuis  Vice-President , Economic Studies, Mouvement des caisses Desjardins
Carlos Leitao  Chief Strategist and Chief Economist, Laurentian Bank of Canada
Bernard Brun  Director, Government Relations, Mouvement des caisses Desjardins
Tim Wach  Director of Legislative Development, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Alain Castonguay  Senior Chief, Tax Treaties, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

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Senior Chief, Tax Treaties, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Alain Castonguay

Yes, this is the first time we are signing an agreement with these three countries.

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

So this is not an agreement that is being renewed.

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Senior Chief, Tax Treaties, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Second, we are going to pass the bill and administer the act. Do the other countries have to do the same thing before the legislation can be enforced?

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Senior Chief, Tax Treaties, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Alain Castonguay

Yes, each of the three countries also has to ratify the agreement in accordance with its legislation. The latest reports indicate that Greece has completed the process and is ready to ratify the treaty. As for Colombia, I am told that the Senate approved the treaty at the end of September. It is now in the hands of that country's House of Representatives, which will debate the matter. In Turkey's case, it has gone through the foreign affairs committee in the Turkish Parliament and will be studied by the general assembly. Chances are good that these two countries will be able to ratify the agreement by the end of the year.

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

If it is not ratified, we cannot enforce it, is that correct?

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Senior Chief, Tax Treaties, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Alain Castonguay

That is correct. Those two countries must ratify the treaty in order for it to take effect.

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Fine.

To date, we have never signed an agreement with Greece. This is the first time we are signing a tax agreement with them.

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Senior Chief, Tax Treaties, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance

Alain Castonguay

This is the first time we have had an agreement with Greece, yes.

It is a bit of an anomaly because Greece is a part of the OECD. Let's just say the negotiations took a while.

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Liberal

Massimo Pacetti Liberal Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel, QC

Fine.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Thank you.

I will now suggest we move to clause-by-clause consideration of Bill S-3.

Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), consideration of clause 1 is postponed.

Mr. Wallace.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Can I move that clauses 2, 3, and 4 be moved all at the same time?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Okay.

(Clauses 2 to 4 inclusive agreed to)

(Schedules 1 to 3 inclusive agreed to)

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall the short title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall the title carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall the bill carry?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Shall the chair report the bill to the House?

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Some hon. members

Agreed.

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

Merci.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Do I have to leave you my notice of motion on this?

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Conservative

The Chair Conservative James Rajotte

No, we will discuss your motion. I believe Mr. Brison's motion is on Wednesday.

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Conservative

Mike Wallace Conservative Burlington, ON

Yes, but this is a notice...handing this out. It's a notice of motion for Wednesday, right?