I'm not suggesting that. I'm saying that our figures are clear, in that we are still at 1989 levels. I would interpret that to mean not enough has been done. Over the last 20 years, strategies have been put in place by governments, and we appreciate those strategies, as I'm sure Canadians do. But I think the message here is that more has to be done. We have to look at it as a national shame that we, in a country as rich as ours, still have the percentage of children and families living in poverty that we do. That is shameful.