Absolutely. And again I apologize that I can't respond to you in French.
We believe that sharing the pension responsibility over as large a base as possible offers the most security for our members. So that's why we support that initiative. Our members can't be entirely reliant on corporate goodwill or sense of responsibility any more.
Unfortunately, the markets have been very harsh on pension plans. Even with a company the size of Air Canada, because of the dips in the pension fund, there's no way it can be funded by the corporation itself. So that's where we believe pension insurance would be a viable option, and we're happy to provide the committee with further information on that.