Again, we're talking about moving from the short and medium term to the long term. When we look to the long term, we look at aging demographics. Projecting forward, we're going to see a big change in the old age dependency ratios, as I said, over the next 10 to 20 years, in particular. So we're saying that the debt-to-GDP ratio, once you move through the medium term into the long term, will actually start to increase. Our operating budget balance would actually go into deficit. Right now, it's expected to go into surplus soon. That's the part that's not sustainable, so we need to take actions to deal with the long term, the same way we took actions with respect to CPP.
On February 15th, 2011. See this statement in context.