I'm going to ask my colleagues to then consider inviting Mr. Rudderham to come back, simply because I intend to ask questions, given my law enforcement background, that deal with specifics on how we improve what we have. Without being able to ask questions with regard to how they get from A to Z, which in a public setting would actually educate those who want to commit crimes, it's going to be very difficult to complete a thorough study.
I'll agree with my colleagues that we continue today in public, but if we intend to do a fulsome assessment of this problem and get to some suggestions from the grassroots folks who are working in it, I would suggest that we re-invite Mr. Rudderham.