They go to the bank. If they can't go to the government, then the crown corporation should go to the bank. If they were a private employer for all intents and purposes.... Some of my employers I've negotiated with have had to go to the bank to get some backstopping. General Motors had to come to the people of Canada for a while. There are all sorts of things happening. That wasn't because of pension deficits. It's because the market failed the system.
Now we have to go and look at ways to accommodate short term.... Canada pension returned 10% last year, a crown corporation, I might add, Mr. Jean. That's 10% from investing the people's money in pension reform.