Okay, I just wanted to clarify that. I have to move on because I have such little time.
To Mr. Morrison, now I understand from the Canadian Media Guild—maybe you can help clarify this—that the collective agreement at the CBC is not just about wages and benefits but that it contains clauses to help ensure journalistic integrity for Canada's largest journalistic organization. It includes strict conflict-of-interest rules. It ensures that CBC journalists act in the public interest, that journalists are protected from political interference with their work, and that journalists don't have to fear retribution for stories that they may cover on politicians of the day. I understand that the Treasury board's interference could undermine these measures.
Is the CBC's independence—based on these kinds of collective agreement provisions—essential to its performance as a journalistic entity?