I ask because some experts have said that they're really quite ineffective—and when we hear from them, I'm going to ask them this same question. “You don't know what to ask for, so how are you going to get anything back?” That's their simple position.
But you have no information. I'll ask the experts later.
I want to go back to the specifics of Bill S-17. You referred, for example, to Serbia and Poland, Mr. Castonguay, as being two countries with which we may be able to have automatic information exchange with. I just don't know how it works, if you will, bureaucratically or administratively.
We've negotiated this open agreement contemplating tax information exchange, as in article 25. We say that we'd like to now move to automatic exchange. They say they don't want to. What happens then?