Certainly, the intents and interests behind that are common. As I say, I think there need to be a few different paths forward for it, but certainly there is no argument about the basic interest. That's part of it.
The other part is the transformation of the relationship has very practical terms as well. If you look at the approach right now, it's really one of trying to track accountability and to get reports. It's been estimated that there are up to 2,000 public servants that are really just monitoring all of these contribution agreements. It seems to me that those 2,000 person years could be much better focused on things that will really pay off for the communities that need the services.
I think there are a lot of elements to transforming this relationship. The fiscal part of that is an important part of it.
Also, if long-term arrangements are possible, that would also make it possible for banks and other groups to be part of those investments. Land certainty is part of it. But also, the economic certainty of 15- to 20-year agreements or an understanding of what the level of these agreements will be will actually make it possible for the marketplace to participate in the first nations economy. There are lots of elements to that. I think it's an exciting part of the dialogue going forward that the national chief really wants to stimulate and to put into motion.