Than any other country in the world? That would be hard to do. Certainly if you look at G-8 on average or G-20 on average, we're in better shape when we compare our levels of gross or net debt with that of other countries. Going into the recession in 2009-10, we were in better shape. It allowed us to have a fiscal stimulus package.
Again, the question for you today is, as you look to the future and you see the range of private sector forecasts, what do you feel is realistic in this context? You're going to get different data points from different people. And it's in that kind of context where you might say that if you're going to operate so long below potential, then should you consider stimulus. But if you consider stimulus, you're absolutely right, it would be deficit finance. And it would have to be done in the context of a longer-term scenario. Because of aging demographics, we have more fiscal pressures to face. There is a trade-off.