Right. So you could see that full employment isn't zero. Let's be very clear. We don't actually know where it could be. Maybe it's not 6% to 8%; maybe it's 5% to something else.
There is another thing I would point out in terms of the conduct of the Bank of Canada's monetary policy. Ask yourself this question. How much more of a boost would the economy get if interest rates were lower? Consumers have taken on as much debt as they really can. And the problem, from a business point of view, is not the cost of borrowing; the problem is the willingness to spend and invest, because balance sheets are flush with cash.