If you have anything to submit as follow-up to that, and certainly on that point, I'd appreciate it.
The second issue I wanted to raise was that of tax filers and charitable donors.
Ms. Laforest, you said that the number of donors actually declined from 30% in 1990 to 23.4% in 2010.
Mr. Reed, you stated that the incidence of income tax returns that report charitable donations for tax credit purposes has been falling since 1982.
I asked Statistics Canada about a chart that showed the tax filers going from about $18 million to $24 million and the charitable donors staying constant in terms of numbers. My recollection of what they said to me on Tuesday was that I shouldn't be reading too much into that, and in fact they used the example of a couple, where one person may donate for the couple. I can certainly follow up with them on that, but they seemed to indicate to me that it wasn't too much of a concern that I ought to be looking at, whereas I think both of you are saying something opposite. So I wanted to give you the opportunity to expand on that point.
I have about a minute between the two of you.
Who would like to go first?