On ecogifts, the expense is there, and it's an expense that's been borne since 1995, to varying degrees, because the exemption has been diminished over time. The perception is that the expense is there because it has an independent policy objective that relates to the national conservation program. So it's an expense, an acknowledged expense, but it has a different policy basis than general charitable giving.
On February 7th, 2012. See this statement in context.