Now, I also want to say that as a small business owner in Fort McMurray—I owned about 10 businesses over a 20-year period, and I can assure you that my biggest problem was retaining employees. That still is a problem for me up there.
What I like the best about this is that it gives me an option to compete against the large oil sands plants, which offer great pensions. After 15 or 20 years of service, they pay out about $2,500 per employee, and it's almost impossible.... I've tried time and time again with the chamber of commerce. I've tried a pension plan with different groups. With insurance companies, I've tried some sort of pension plan.
This certainly gives me, as a small business owner with between five and 100 employees, a tremendous opportunity to be on a level playing field or to at least offer that option. Is that what you're hearing in the marketplace?