In your case, I suspect that's something they look forward to.
Ms. Eng, perhaps you'd be interested in answering this. My concern is that if one uses a place like Bell Canada, for example, where I used to work, they have a defined benefit pension plan at this point. Would there not be an incentive for them to move that plan away from the defined benefit plan because in that particular relationship the collective agreement does not cover the benefit--it's something separate from the collective agreement?