When we talk about the CPP, it relates to workers. There is a whole group of people out there who are not in the CPP—everyone from farmers to small business people to family run enterprises. For them to have access to a low-cost, low-risk plan is an important feature. They're part of the economy, and they deserve it. We shouldn't kick them to the curb because we like to see one thing more than the other.
There's also a second group of people. I'm talking about the Teamsters and others in the private sector. These are workers that we try our best to get pension plans for but can't. We have matching RRSPs, and we have DCs. It would be wonderful if we had a way of rolling them into a larger plan so we could lower the cost and the risk for them. There's a large group of people who could benefit from a PRPP.