It would be great if we all knew exactly the textures and all the other stuff that people talk about when they drink wine, but for the most part, most of us just want to enjoy something that tastes good.
There was a question I asked last week—I believe it was last week—when we had witnesses on this bill. I started out first of all with a statement saying that I was in Costco, and I think Ms. Zimmerman or somebody mentioned Costco. I'm telling you that Costco in the States had a better wine selection than the LCBO. Of course, that's in Ontario, and I can't speak for the rest of the provinces, but it was profound.
As we talk about this issue—and Ms. Zimmerman, you mentioned that you're somewhat protective of the grape growers and I'm not asking you a question at this point—I'd hate to see us get bogged down with that being the focal point. I would like to see our wine industry grow to the point where we would do basically what they're doing in the States. I know that we don't have their population, but we are, as I always tell people in our area, a day's drive from 200 million people, so we have this huge opportunity.
Maybe I could just go down the line very quickly and ask you if we are moving in that direction, because I have tasted some really good wines in this country. We had a display of Nova Scotia wines, for instance, and they were outstanding. I know that our wines are good. The B.C. guys will tell you theirs are, and Dean even seems to think that his wines are better than ours, so we know we really have some good wines. But will this move us in that direction, where we can really start to expand and get away from this trap that I think we get ourselves into as Canadians, in that we want to protect what we have rather than exploit what we have?
Ms. George, I'll start with you. What do you think?