So there is a perception that they give more than they really do. It is not as big an amount as one might think. I don't know the exact figures on it, but I don't think they can be....
One of the problems we have is that corporations and rich individuals tend to give to large organizations such as universities, hospitals, and so on, and the charitable groups doing work in community service serving the poor only get about 10% of the charitable dollar. That's a problem.