What I've seen the courts and the CRA do—and I'm not an expert—is come down on the individual donors, the donors who were involved in funding these tax schemes. In our experience, and as I provided in our submission, we are a tiny charity. We're unknown. We have worked with two donors who were approached by a trusted adviser; one was an accountant, one was an executive director. We ran the paperwork through expert legal advice. In each situation, it came back clean and legitimate.
What we have seen the CRA do, which is completely appropriate, is this: where donors, however innocent or unsuspecting they may be, are unwitting participants in a tax scheme, they are assessed the full amount of what was tax receipted plus interest.
The situation we worked on was an elderly lady who was asked to make a donation of $1.1 million and a tax receipt was going to be issued for $5.5 million. These are highly sophisticated schemes that are far and beyond what a reasonable man on the street could possibly research on a charity, and there would be very financially onerous consequences.
Are the people running the charities—I don't know, maybe Mark knows—ever brought to accountability? Are they ever brought to trial?