But on the basis that people at the lower end use this $6,000 that they get from OAS to survive on, it's a crucially important one to them.
Now not only will Canadians have to wait longer, to 67—that's very clear—before accessing OAS, but they will also have to wait for the benefits and the guaranteed income supplement. Again, sir, I am referring to the poorest of the poor. Chances are these people are already on either a disability pension from a provincial government or perhaps social assistance, and they are going to have to stay on there and that has them already below the poverty line because of these two programs. Can the minister provide us with the details of his plan to assist the provinces?
You've spoken, sir, about the fact that you're going to assist the provinces. Is there a detail that you can provide to us?