I think that is part of the problem. I'm sure they're all very competent people. I say that vis-à-vis my successor, who just didn't happen to have any background in criminal law but had a background in estate planning. Don't come to me for estate planning, but come to me for criminal law and go to him for estate planning.
I notice there are at least two people who are still left who are MDs. I really couldn't see the relationship. They're distinguished people but I would have thought that maybe SIRC itself would benefit from someone who had a background in something akin to national security in one form or another.
If you want to have credible oversight, the analogy I used before is with a race car and I think it's appropriate. If you want to win a race, what do you need? You need three things. You need a car that has a powerful engine. That's a legislative mandate. You' have to have fuel. That's money. You have to have a highly skilled driver. You put those things together, you win the race. If you want to have credible oversight, you have to have those three things.
There have been some very distinguished people who have certainly sat on SIRC who I have great respect for, but at times it looks like it's an afterthought. It shouldn't be an afterthought that you don't have a permanent chair of SIRC right now. I don't know what kind of a message that sends to the public. You're eliminating the IG's office because the IG hasn't been replaced. You're eliminating that office and you don't have a chair for SIRC. The reality is you have four people who I believe have full-time jobs who come in part time to do this. What does that send as a signal to the Canadian population about our domestic intelligence agency? It's a very poor signal.