Mr. Adler, maybe I could just help the discussion along a little bit. I don't believe this is a genuine point of order. I think it's a point of discussion. I appreciate the comments that have been made. I'd like to caution the members of the committee that we're working long hours and we need to show respect to those people who have given their time to come here. I think it's fair for us to have a vigorous debate, but I think what you're making is in fact a point of debate.
Yes, Mr. Hoback.