Okay. I appreciate that.
I will just respond as the chair and say that I have consistently asked members on both sides to show respect and to focus on the subject matter at hand, and to not stretch relevance to the point where I'm wondering what the point is in relation to the bill we're discussing. I just encourage all members to stick to the clauses and the bill we are debating and to make their points.
My suggestion to all three parties is to get on the record and say “with respect to this issue, this is our position”. Each party can do that very succinctly, and we can move forward and have a vote on the clauses. People can register whether they support them or not and we can move forward.
That's my advice as chair. I can't enforce that. I can't impose that upon you as members of Parliament. I'm just seeking your approval in that method. Let's just put everything behind us, in terms of past comments, and move forward from there.
I will call clauses 441 to 444.
(Clauses 441 to 444 inclusive agreed to on division)
We'll move to division 24.
I want to thank Mr. Giles for being here.
We'll do the Old Age Security Act, clauses 445 to 467. I have Mr. Marston on debate.