Debt is often brought up. My colleague, Mr. Van Kesteren, talked about elements that led to debt or encouraged having a larger debt. One of those elements is easier access to credit, especially credit cards. Some financial institutions are even in part responsible for the greater availability of credit cards, which facilitate the incurring of debt. They are also responsible—at least from a financial standpoint through contributions—for the leader's programs or mandate. So there is a major contradiction there. Do you not see a contradiction in what the bill proposes?
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