That's exactly my point. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but it's exactly my point. The point's been made. There's no need for us to go into it, but the reality is that each and every one of you has given up your time, and this is a significant and important chance for you, and time was used up for that. I think that's reprehensible, actually.
I want to ask you a question. Either one of you is free to answer. How have the corporate tax breaks in Canada benefited people who live in poverty?